Trey Hall is the co-founder of Urban Village Church, a multisite United Methodist congregation in Chicago. In the world of mainline church planting, Urban Village is a terrific success story.

In this episode, Trey and Matt explore the blessings and dangers of charisma, the gifts those in 12-step recovery bring to the pulpit, whether it is possible to preach from general revelation, and what happens when your parents want you to be a doctor and God wants you to be a preacher.

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