Episode 1: Shannon Kershner

Shannon Kershner is pastor of Fourth Presbyterian Church in Chicago, an iconic congregation and one of the largest in the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.).

In this episode, Shannon and Matt talk about preaching during a pastoral transition, what it's like to preach as a post-liberal among liberals, and the crash course she took in the Chicago Cubs to prepare for Ernie Banks's funeral. They also explore the possibility that same-sex marriage might be revealing marriage as truly sacramental.

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