Christ within

April 6, 2011

I think it is easy for modern people to read Paul and surmise that he
wishes we did not have to deal with physical bodies.  To those of us
used to thinking of the spirit/soul and the body as totally separate
thing, Paul's "spirit" - "flesh" contrast can sound like "spirit good,
body bad."  But I don't think Paul shares our spirit-body duality. 
After all, he insists that resurrection is a bodily thing, and in
today's reading he speaks of the Spirit giving "life to (our) mortal

Paul seems to use "flesh" as a kind of shorthand for life that is
animated by sin.  Certain sorts of bodily cravings may be a part of
this, but the body itself is not the problem.  That is why those who are
"in Christ Jesus" can still live a normal, bodily existence but be not
be captive to sin.  As Paul writes to very fleshy humans, "But you are not in the flesh; you are in the Spirit, since the Spirit of God dwells in you." 

change Paul is talking about isn't something apart from our bodily
lives.  Rather it is an inward transformation that reorients our lives,
including our day-to-day, fleshy ones, so that they in tune with God.  

think that the true goal of spirituality - and religion when properly
understood - is to become aware of and attentive to this inward presence
of Jesus, the Spirit dwelling in us.  That is why spirituality must
first go inward.  Yet true spirituality cannot simply stay there.  A
life animated by the Spirit, that is "in Christ," issues forth in a life
pleasing to God, a life that is modeled after Jesus.  Surely Jesus is
the most deeply spiritual person ever to walk this earth, yet his life
was one of vital action on God's and humanity's behalf.  Surely Jesus is
the ideal embodiment of what Paul is talking about: bodily life that is
"in the Spirit."

Originally posted at Pastor James.


Sledge's "The Christ Within"

I have come to quite a different conclusion about Paul in reference to his sensations on "the flesh." I was finishing up another book on OCD and reviewing some pauline passages when it hit me that what Luke was reporting on in the Damascus Way experience was a flashback. Since then I have given a good amount of thought to that. In face, I have even begun to blog about it as "The Apostle Paul and Post Traumatic Stress."
Robert Collie

Paul from the perspective of PTSD

Thanks for the emphasis on spirituality.

I've come to the conclusion that the flesh and spirit discussion about Paul is complex and open-ended. When I was looking at the Damascus way experience a couple of years ago it hit me that I was reading about a flashback. I believe the flashback that Saul had was distinctly different from the mystical experiences reported by the women and disciples.

Robert Collie

Paul's struggle with flesh and spirit

I got a lot of clarity on this issue when it suddenly struck me that on the way to Damascus Saul experience what we currently call post-traumatic stress. I have spent several years now exploring that and it brings a illumination worth considering.

When we come then to the phrase "in Christ," what it meant to Paul was a new form of self identity and all the healing that implied.

Robert Collie, Th.D.