Otis Moss III is senior pastor of Trinity UCC in Chicago, the largest congregation in the UCC. He is ordained in both the UCC and the Progressive National Baptist Convention.

In this episode, Otis and Matt talk about Otis’s experience preaching with his father, what it was like to follow Jeremiah Wright into Trinity’s pulpit (he got death threats), the unique way the African American church reveals God, and the changing way the church talks about mental health.

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