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Episode 16: Zack Eswine

Zack Eswine is pastor of Riverside Church in Webster Groves, Missouri, and author of The Imperfect Pastor, a Christianity Today book of the year.

In this episode, Matt and Zack explore distinctions between liberal and conservative churches, how to make good use of failure in ministry, and Zack's efforts to slow down the growth of his church.

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