Rabbi Lizzi Heydemann is the founder of Mishkan Chicago, a booming “post-denominational” Jewish faith community. Mishkan’s first service took place in a living room. Last year it welcomed more than 1,500 people to the high holidays.

In this episode, Lizzi and Matt compare Protestant and Jewish preaching, discuss ways a charismatic rabbi can avoid developing a cult of personality, and consider what Christian congregations can learn from Mishkan’s success.

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